{"id":172559,"date":"2022-08-08T11:26:14","date_gmt":"2022-08-08T16:26:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=172559"},"modified":"2026-09-09T17:16:47","modified_gmt":"2026-09-09T22:16:47","slug":"podcast-824-lonesome-dove-and-lifes-journey-through-uncertainty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/beta.artofmanliness.com\/culture\/books\/podcast-824-lonesome-dove-and-lifes-journey-through-uncertainty\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #824: Lonesome Dove and Life&#8217;s Journey Through Uncertainty"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>If you&#8217;ve been listening to this show or reading the AoM website for awhile, then you likely know what my favorite book of all time is: <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Lonesome-Dove-Novel-Larry-McMurtry\/dp\/1439195269?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1659387895&amp;sr=8-1&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=stucosuccess-20&amp;linkId=60d3939fe8266e369131b300a9e91bb3&amp;language=en_US&amp;ref_=as_li_ss_tl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Lonesome-Dove-Novel-Larry-McMurtry\/dp\/1439195269?_encoding%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1659387895%26sr%3D8-1%26linkCode%3Dsl1%26tag%3Dstucosuccess-20%26linkId%3D60d3939fe8266e369131b300a9e91bb3%26language%3Den_US%26ref_%3Das_li_ss_tl&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1660051348393000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0ul8wh1xNS56zg3fWAPkW_\"><span class=\"il\">Lonesome<\/span>&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">Dove<\/span><\/a><\/i>&nbsp;by Larry McMurtry.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s therefore my real pleasure to be able to talk all about that novel today with Steven Frye, professor of American literature and author&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3vt2HQ3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/amzn.to\/3vt2HQ3&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1660051348393000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3S14a00EUOd8LJs93N4qbs\"><i>Understanding Larry McMurtry<\/i><\/a>. We last had Steve on the show to talk about&nbsp;<i>The Road<\/i>&nbsp;by Cormac McCarthy. In this episode, we unpack&nbsp;<i><span class=\"il\">Lonesome<\/span>&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">Dove<\/span><\/i>, beginning with some background on McMurtry, and the style and themes he explores in his work. From there we turn to&nbsp;<i><span class=\"il\">Lonesome<\/span>&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">Dove<\/span><\/i>, and its surprising&nbsp;influences, from Jane Austen to Cervantes. Steve and I explore the characters of Augustus McCrae and Woodrow Call, how they can represent the archetypes of the Epicurean and the Stoic, and what we can learn from their friendship. We also talk about the complexities&nbsp;of other characters&nbsp;in the novel, and end our conversation with why&nbsp;<i><span class=\"il\">Lonesome<\/span>&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">Dove<\/span><\/i>, despite not having a stereotypically&nbsp;happy ending, is such a life-affirming book.<\/p>\n<p>A spoiler alert here: We are going to reveal plenty of plot points in this discussion, so be aware of that if you haven&#8217;t yet read&nbsp;<i><\/i><i><span class=\"il\">Lonesome<\/span>&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">Dove<\/span>.<br \/>\n<\/i><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you&#8217;ve been listening to this show or reading the AoM website for awhile, then you likely know what my favorite book of all time is: Lonesome&nbsp;Dove&nbsp;by Larry McMurtry. It&#8217;s therefore my real pleasure to be able to talk all about that novel today with Steven Frye, professor of American literature and author&nbsp;of&nbsp;Understanding Larry McMurtry. 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