{"id":133653,"date":"2021-01-13T14:47:30","date_gmt":"2021-01-13T20:47:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=133653"},"modified":"2026-09-12T13:58:12","modified_gmt":"2026-09-12T18:58:12","slug":"humility-narcissism-leadership","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/beta.artofmanliness.com\/character\/leadership\/humility-narcissism-leadership\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #675: The Humble, Narcissistic Leader"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Research, not to mention anecdotal&nbsp;observation, shows that a lot of narcissists&nbsp;end up in leadership positions. That&#8217;s because the qualities narcissism&nbsp;enlarges into extremes &#8212; confidence, assertiveness, a sense of destiny &#8212; help people rise to the top.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, the same qualities&nbsp;of narcissism&nbsp;that help an individual obtain a leadership position, can prevent them from being effective in that position, and from holding onto it.<\/p>\n<p>My guest&#8217;s research has uncovered what can be a solution to this dilemma: the timeless virtue of humility. His name is Brad Owens, he&#8217;s a professor of business ethics, and we&nbsp;begin our discussion today by digging into the&nbsp;fact that studies&nbsp;done on&nbsp;the effect of narcissism on leadership have been inconsistent, with some showing it to have a positive effect,&nbsp;and others a negative one. Brad explains that the reason these studies may have&nbsp;been inconclusive, is that while narcissism&nbsp;can get someone into a leadership role, it then gets in the way of them succeeding in that role. We then turn to the idea that cultivating&nbsp;humility can temper the negative effects of narcissism, and the three aspects of humility every leader, whether narcissistic&nbsp;or not, should cultivate. We discuss whether there are situations where you do want to be more&nbsp;narcissistic than humble, what a&nbsp;humble, narcissistic leader looks like, and how Steve Jobs and George Washington serve as examples of this combination of qualities.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Research, not to mention anecdotal&nbsp;observation, shows that a lot of narcissists&nbsp;end up in leadership positions. That&#8217;s because the qualities narcissism&nbsp;enlarges into extremes &#8212; confidence, assertiveness, a sense of destiny &#8212; help people rise to the top. 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