{"id":130395,"date":"2020-11-16T10:55:44","date_gmt":"2020-11-16T16:55:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=130395"},"modified":"2026-09-12T15:53:30","modified_gmt":"2026-09-12T20:53:30","slug":"get-better-sleep","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/beta.artofmanliness.com\/strength\/health\/get-better-sleep\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #661: Get Better Sleep by Stressing About It Less"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over the&nbsp;past decade, there&#8217;s been an emerging focus on the importance of sleep. Thousands&nbsp;of books and articles have been put out which&nbsp;drive home just how central sleep is in our mental and physical&nbsp;health. This emphasis on sleep has had the positive&nbsp;effect of motivating people to better prioritize it. But, there&#8217;s been a downside to all this sleep talk as well: people are getting more stressed out if they&#8217;re not getting the kind of sleep they think they&#8217;re supposed to.<\/p>\n<p>My guest today says that ironically, stressing about sleep may be exactly what&#8217;s hurting your sleep. His name is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cvilleneuroandsleep.com\">Dr. Chris Winter<\/a>, and he&#8217;s a neurologist, a sleep specialist, and the author of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B01KGZVRVO\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B01KGZVRVO&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=stucosuccess&amp;linkId=FSXA3GZUT5SFDAZ4\"><em>The Sleep Solution: Why Your Sleep Is Broken and How to Fix It<\/em><\/a>. Chris and I begin our conversation with why we get sleepy, and how people sometimes confuse fatigue with sleepiness. 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